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Website: http://www.veneersystems.com Classified Ad Exchange They are used for spreading thinset for tile, adhesive for vinyl flooring, etc. John Van Brussel to receive notification! gtag('js', new Date()); Part 4 Model 5176 Titebond - Cold Press Veneer Glue, Gallon. Seemed like a lot of work to use a product when others like Pro-Glue don't require such hassles and work just as well with lower formaldehyde levels. Discussing CNC (computer numerically controlled) woodworking equipment, software, and automated product manufacturing. I've been very happy with it's performance on my box I'm doing currently and does a … Advertising is inappropriate. Forum users may perceive your references to specific products as unsolicited advertising (spam) and consciously avoid your web site or services. Other Resources A Sharp Veneer Saw Fillers can be added which increase thickness but can reduce bond strength. David Unibond; Gorilla; Tytex; Price. Other Resources QualityVak Helping professional furniture makers improve quality, save time, and increase profits On the website, it notes that "although not as high a performer as our two part Unibond 800, Unibond One is an excellent veneering and laminating adhesive when the extreme rigidity and performance of a two part urea resin glue is not required." $('.thumbcount').html("1"); There are often situations when the original message asks for opinions: "What is the best widget for my type of shop?". WOODnetWORK date.setTime(date.getTime() + (180 * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000)); Finishing issues for the production environment Amazon's Choice for "veneer glue" Gorilla GG5044400 Glue, Natural Wood Colour, 118ml. It has minimal bleed thru, and has a reasonable open time. E-Mail us and let us know what you think. They are used for spreading thinset for tile, adhesive for vinyl flooring, etc. A well-crafted signature is an appropriate way to advertise your services that will not offend potential customers. WOODWEB is a professional industrial woodworking site. Your Name ... Video Library Messages and responses that are crafted in a professional and civil manner strengthen this resource. Chris Discussing topics related to primary processing and drying of lumber ____________________ Yes, the quoted statement went on to say "The only exception was Titebond Polyurethane, which failed under a very acceptable average of 1,650 psi of shearing pressure". Shop Gallery Discussing topics related to veneer processing, manufacturing, and fabrication There are often situations when the original message asks for opinions: "What is the best widget for my type of shop?". Cold press (veneering) Veneering requires a glue with a long open time, that does not creep. With its very fast setting rate, viscosity stability and high percentage solids, Titebond Premium II can also be used for a variety of assembly gluing applications. I did two tests to calculate film thickness using grams of glue used per square meter. However, the truth is, I've used Titebond (yellow) for quite awhile, applied with a foam roller to the substrate, and have never had any issues. Dust Collection, Safety and Plant Operation Forum. I use notched spreaders because it gives me a nice consistent spread. ... WOODWEB suggests that businesses include an appropriately crafted signature in order to identify their company. Thread Related Files posted at WOODWEB's Forums and Exchanges should provide supporting information for the topic being discussed in the current message thread. document.cookie = encodeURIComponent('thumbs_755548') + "=" + encodeURIComponent('Y') + expires + "; path=/"; With my 1mm V notch on 3mm center spreader the calculated film thickness is 6.6 mils (.0394 x .0394 = .001552, / 4 = .000388, square root = .0197, / 3 = .0066). Will those nifty looking rollers put out the correct amount of glue spread, or are they just like my paint roller but with a reservoir? To a certain extent, the person posting the message is responsible for including specific questions within the message. A vacuum bag works good, or just a substrate with weight. Why all the hoopla about the rigid glues? ... DIY Vacuum Manifold Do you mean "Pro-Glue" instead of "Pro-Bond"? (return to top). to receive notification! Veneer Forum CAD Forum Introduction A vacuum bag exerts one atmosphere of pressure, or 15 psi, and you don’t have all those heavy waxed cauls plus beams and clamps to deal with. Other Resources (Take a thin piece of wood - maybe 6 x 6 x 1/8" thick. The various Titebond products appear to differ primarily in their water resistance, 3 being the best, 2 being okay, with 1 (elmer's) being pretty poor. Classified advertising for the woodworking industry (for advertisements that do not include machinery, lumber products and employment listings) Galleries 2/10       #10: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! These glues are urea formaldehyde based, chemical reaction bonds with high water resistance and thermosetting. Be sure to review our Frequently Asked Questions page. To a certain extent, the person posting the message is responsible for including specific questions within the message. The only exceptions are the Classified Ads Exchange, Machinery Exchange, Lumber Exchange, and Job Opportunities and Services Exchange. We quit the Uni-bond when the formulation changed to less formaldehyde. 335 Bedell Road Responses should relate to the original question. If any little clumps remained they needed to be broken up and mixed in again. Carefully review your message before clicking on the "Send Message" button - you will not be able to revise the message once it has been sent. We quit the Uni-bond when the formulation changed to less formaldehyde. All rights reserved. Your Name: Signatures should be limited to 4-6 lines, and may contain information that identifies the type of business you're in, your URL and email address (return to top). Discussions covering issues faced be commercial drying operations that process at least 750,000 bd. Thread Related File Uploads Over time, it becomes progressively more difficult to squeeze the glue out but we can't say that it ever becomes too much of a hassle. Confused Improper Decorum:   Posts which are profane, inciting, disrespectful or uncivil in tone, or maliciously worded. of materials and methods discussed at WOODWEB after considerate evaluation, What is safe for one woodworker under certain conditions may not be safe Classified advertising for the woodworking industry (for advertisements that do not include machinery, lumber products and employment listings) 2/17       #17: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! Messages are inappropriate when their content: is deemed libelous in nature or is based on rumor, fails to meet basic standards of decorum, contains blatant advertising or inappropriate emphasis on self promotion (return to top). You must include a valid email address in this field. Maybe I am just irrational about the whole subject. David R Sochar do not submit this request ... you are already signed up Advertisers offering woodworkers discounted prices on good and services, and announcements of upcoming auctions What about using a wet film gage? If any little clumps remained they needed to be broken up and mixed in again. Solid Wood Machining Forum It has been WOODWEB's experience that substantive responses are held in higher regard by our readers (return to top). Member On the other hand any glue rate for RF curing will give a hard glue line. I would also suggest looking at the MSDS sheet for the glue. do not submit this request ... you are already signed up Contact WOODWEB Dividing 1,000 lbs. Advertising:   The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not an advertising venue. Yes, I meant "Pro-Glue", but we are now using CP's cp-0503 pre-catalyzed powdered urea resin. I need someone else to suggest a size. Vacuum Chucking WOODWEB is a professional industrial woodworking site. I test with samples I put in the press for a couple of minutes. Choose the best forum for your question, and post your question at one forum only. 2/10       #9: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! Private response requests are appropriate at WOODWEB's Exchanges and Job Opportunities and Services. For the Urea Glue you need to use the grey rubber roller. The only thing we have sort of a problem with is how fast the substance thickens up. ft. of lumber per year They are used for spreading thinset for tile, adhesive for vinyl flooring, etc. "Keep Me Posted" button below. Responses should relate to the original question. } ) ; Iron-On Veneering If its a flat surface, in my experience, Tight bond 2 is just fine. Refer a Friend || Read The staff of WOODWEB assume no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or outcome of any posting transmitted at WOODWEB's Message Boards. Enter the correct numbers into the field below: Machinery Exchange Letters, questions or comments? An electronic discussion group for woodworkers throughout the world Companies participating in a Forum discussion should provide specific answers to posted questions. With my 1mm V notch on 3mm center spreader the calculated film thickness is 6.6 mils (.0394 x .0394 = .001552, / 4 = .000388, square root = .0197, / 3 = .0066). Contact WOODWEB ... It has been WOODWEB's experience that substantive responses are held in higher regard by our readers (return to top). 2/11       #14: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! The V notches are approximately 1mm (1+ edge, 1- legs) on 3mm centers. Dave Industry News ... With my 1mm V notch on 3mm center spreader the calculated film thickness is 6.6 mils (.0394 x .0394 = .001552, / 4 = .000388, square root = .0197, / 3 = .0066). Do those dispensers work well? $('.thumbsupimg').css('cursor','pointer'); WOODWEB, Inc. WOODWEB's forums are a highly regarded resource for professional woodworkers. A Thread Related Link that directs visitors to an area with inappropriate content will be removed. If I did the math right, the wet film thickness of a 1/16" V notch spreader is over 30 mils. Peeling off the veneer shows how well it gets covered. $('.thumbsupimg').css('cursor','pointer'); The name you enter in this field will be the name that appears with your post or response (return to form). A: The liquid resin is the glue and the powdered hardener is the catalyst. Messages are inappropriate when their content: is deemed libelous in nature or is based on rumor, fails to meet basic standards of decorum, contains blatant advertising or inappropriate emphasis on self promotion (return to top). Vacuum Clamp Matrix Excel 1™ Individuals who excessively post responses containing marginal content will be considered repeat forum abusers. Have you tried or looked into any of the single component glues made just for cold pressing?I think titebond makes one,and another one called Better Bond.I know they have a shorter working time,but if you can deal with that,they might be worth trying. (return to form) Notched spreaders can be found at most hardware stores in the flooring department. Dave WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links or images it deems inappropriate. Titebond Supreme This is a very fast setting adhesive of the titebond aliphatic resin range. Architectural Woodworking Forum WOODWEB is a professional industrial woodworking site. Video Library Video Files: acceptable video formats are: .MOV .AVI .WMV .MPEG .MPG .FLV .MP4 (Image Upload Tips)   If you encounter any difficulty when uploading video files, E-mail WOODWEB for assistance. Libel:   Posts which defame an individual or organization, or employ a tone which can be viewed as malicious in nature. Vacuum Press FAQ Seemed like a lot of work to use a product when others like Pro-Glue don't require such hassles and work just as well with lower formaldehyde levels. A well meaning post that seems to be on-topic but contains a product reference may do your business more harm than good in the Forum environment. ... Subject lines should provide an indication of the content of your post. Your Name 2/7       #7: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! ... Titebond 5003 ll Premium Wood Glue (8fl oz) We use foam rollers - small o.d. Professional Furniture Making Forum Peeling off the veneer shows how well it gets covered. Contact us to discuss advertising or to report problems with this site. Website: http://www.veneersystems.com Classified Ad Exchange CNC Forum This is raw veneer we use, and often 1/16" or so in thickness. When posting listings in these areas, review the posting instructions carefully. Upon more research though, it appears that Unibond 800 is what a lot of people are using for such things. You may want to consider a glue spreader with a smooth roller. Q: What is the coverage per gallon? Contact WOODWEB for more information on initiating a survey. My chief frustration comes from not knowing how to get the proper coverage. document.cookie = encodeURIComponent('thumbs_755548') + "=" + encodeURIComponent('Y') + expires + "; path=/"; Peeling off the veneer shows how well it gets covered. Such messages do little to illuminate a given topic, and often have the opposite effect. Where professional woodworkers can post examples of their work View higher quality, full size image (1600 X 1200) Classified advertising for the woodworking industry (for advertisements that do not include machinery, lumber products and employment listings) "Keep Me Posted" button below. Below are the technical details of the Better Bond X-Press veneer adhesive versus its nearest competitor. date.setTime(date.getTime() + (180 * 24 * 60 * 60 * 1000)); Read on. WOODnetWORK Auctions, Sales and Special Offers 2/15       #16: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! Forums 2/7       #7: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! To report a problem, send an e-mail to our Webmaster Much more consistant than a paint roller. Business and Management Forum Veneer Forum Discussing quality standards and production of architectural wood products This Important Information || Site Readers should undertake the use Shop Gallery Our original findings held. Your Name I haven't seen any notched spreaders small enough and haven't tried filling/machining down the smallest ones. Private response requests are appropriate at WOODWEB's Exchanges and Job Opportunities and Services. View higher quality, full size image (1600 X 1200) Subject lines may be edited for length and clarity. David R Sochar Connect the Bag You will be notified of responses to the message(s) you posted via email. (return to form) $('.thumbsupimg').click(function() { Project: V4™ It doesn’t leave you as much time to adjust the wood as the Titebond Type 3, but you still have around 5 minutes. gtag('config', 'UA-9690114-2'); Yes, I meant "Pro-Glue", but we are now using CP's cp-0503 pre-catalyzed powdered urea resin.   2/9       #8: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! Thread Related Link and Image Guidelines A worldwide buyer and seller exchange for woodworking machinery and equipment. Industry News E-Mail Address: To report a problem, send an e-mail to our Webmaster The materials used can vary widely. document.cookie = encodeURIComponent('thumbs_755548') + "=" + encodeURIComponent('Y') + expires + "; path=/"; David R Sochar MSDS - 412377 SDS; 1 (return to top) Value Added Wood Products Forum notify me of responses to this topic Even with my relatively low notch area, I can get unacceptable bleed through if I'm not careful about cleaning up/removing excess glue - pressure and angle can make a big difference. Messages are inappropriate when their content: is deemed libelous in nature or is based on rumor, fails to meet basic standards of decorum, contains blatant advertising or inappropriate emphasis on self promotion (return to top). DIY Vacuum Bags However titebond liquid hide glue which in the bottle is liquid at room temperature is not as good as proper pearl hide glue or the animal glue granuals it is weaker than both of these and I suspect has a lower melting point. TB cold press is a very weak non structural glue unibond would be a better choice if you wanted a real hard glue line and strong glue. Thread Related Links posted at WOODWEB's Forums and Exchanges should point to locations that provide supporting information for the topic being discussed in the current message thread. However, we remembered that the Old Brown glue was heated and wondered if that preliminary tack was due to the glue gelling as it cooled. An electronic discussion group for woodworkers throughout the world Professional primary processing companies display and describe their sawmill facilities 2/9       #8: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! ... I stopped using Unibond years ago after one too many acid burn throughs ruined finished pieces (mostly occurred in light veneers). Classified advertising for the woodworking industry (for advertisements that do not include machinery, lumber products and employment listings) Amazing Bookmatches On the other hand any glue rate for RF curing will give a hard glue line. Freezing will not extend the life of the adhesive. Paint one side with water and let it dry. for others in different circumstances. Member ... Extensive testing and valuable user feedback allowed us to fine tune the volume of an advanced synthetic fibrous-resin additive that we blend into every batch. /* set a cookie now for this message */ Individuals who excessively post responses containing marginal content will be considered repeat forum abusers. Discussing all aspects of installation issues encountered by cabinet and millwork installers. Depending on what you are trying to do, you might try Unibond 800, a two part adhesive which has a really hard glue-line, and a long open time to allow you to work with it. Business and Management Forum CNC Forum Professional Finishing Forum Intentionally using another persons name is prohibited, and posts of this nature will be removed at WOODWEB's discretion. Laminating and Solid Surfacing Forum "Keep Me Posted" button below. Again and again, Titebond innovations have advanced the adhesives industry and put powerful new products into customers’ hands. A forum for the discussion of business topics: from sales and marketing to dealing with difficult customers. type, but we are having to mix and roll out almost 3 times as much glue as they suggest. Commercial Kiln Drying Forum Titebond - Cold Press Veneer Glue, Quart. Thread Related Link and Image Guidelines Charles E-Mail Address: Refer a Friend || Read ... $('.thumbcount').html("1"); Laminating and Solid Surfacing Forum Post a Response to this thread Dave var date = new Date(); Even so, thickness can vary depending angle and pressure. Galleries Messages should be kept reasonably short and on topic, relating to the focus of the forum. gtag('config', 'UA-9690114-2'); What about using a wet film gage? I test with samples I put in the press for a couple of minutes. Cabinet and Millwork Installation Forum While, theoretically, it provided an almost acceptable 7.5 mill film, actual film thickness is usually (unless you really slant the spreader) higher than the square root of the calculated notch area. It looks as if there are two solutions ready to use: The spreaders as suggested by John V B and the notched spreaders for smaller jobs. The curing speed is what most users will appreciate, but others have commented on its exceptional forgiveness in application. Dave Dave Finishing issues for the production environment As long as you mix properly, apply the correct amount and are above 70F in your shop during curing. One more variable, you will actually have more time to get stuff set up and clamped with epoxy than you will have with Titebond III. No part of this publication may be reproduced in Discussing quality standards and production of architectural wood products The staff of WOODWEB assume no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or outcome of any posting transmitted at WOODWEB's Message Boards. Forum participants who repeatedly fail to follow WOODWEB's Forum Guidelines may encounter difficulty when attempting to post messages. Messages and responses that are crafted in a professional and civil manner strengthen this resource. I wouldn’t fret to much unless you have a hot or cold panel press. Repeated Forum Abuse: The key question is how much solid content comes from glue polymers and how much comes from a free form filler used only to make an adhesive thicker. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); I test with samples I put in the press for a couple of minutes. There are many different sizes and shapes (V-notch, square-notch). Choose the best forum for your question, and post your question at one forum only. Messages that do not reflect a professional tone reduce the value of our forums. Buy & Sell Exchanges | Forums | Galleries | Other Resources | Site Map My first spreader had 1/16" V notches almost 1/4" on center and that was too much for veneering w/ PVA. Forum participants will be able to contact you using a contact link (included with your post) that is substituted for your actual address. There are often situations when the original message asks for opinions: "What is the best widget for my type of shop?". Vacuum Forming John Van Brussel Value Added Wood Products Forum An open ended question (like the one above) invites responses that may read as sales pitches. Member Titebond vs Contact Cement This topic has 39 replies, 14 voices, and was last updated 5 years, 8 months ago by DesertDeuces. Powdered plastic resin We use foam rollers - small o.d. "Cross posting" is not permitted. 2/12       #15: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! 1/16" notched trowel. of materials and methods discussed at WOODWEB after considerate evaluation, The Titebond glue exhibited less tack than was found with the Old Brown Glue. WOODWEB, Inc. Focus on Innovative Solutions. 2/11       #12: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! WOODWEB's forums are a highly regarded resource for professional woodworkers. (return to top) Professional Furniture Making Forum Buy and Sell Exchanges Discussing topics related to veneer processing, manufacturing, and fabrication 2/11       #12: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! TiteBond I and II are somewhat water resistant, with II much more so than I, so indoor use is just fine. Maybe I am just irrational about the whole subject. Chris I use notched spreaders because it gives me a nice consistent spread. Discussing topics related to primary processing and drying of lumber Words, pictures, or cartoons which expose a person or organization to public hatred, shame, disgrace, or ridicule, or induce an ill opinion of a person or organization, are libelous. ... A worldwide buyer and seller exchange for woodworking machinery and equipment. Titebond 3 sounds like it will NOT give me the degree of waterproofing I need, but I was still hoping to be able to utilize some type of non-catalyzed one step glue…(for both ease of use, and to minimize waste). Curing Glued Panels function gtag(){dataLayer.push(arguments);} FORUM GUIDELINES: Please review the guidelines below before posting at WOODWEB's Interactive Message Boards (return to top) Cold press adhesives cure by evaporation. I use a cheap plastic one from Local hardware store. Cold press laminating is desirable when large numbers of like-sized materials need to be glued. Enter the correct numbers into the field below: A personal "member history" that displays your posts at WOODWEB, Your forms at WOODWEB will be filled in automatically. If you have a poor joint and need the expansion and not a lot of strength then you might use it. any manner without permission of the Editor. Forum Posting Form Guidelines Because of this, I had to do 6 different pressings to complete the project. WOODWEB, Inc. gtag('js', new Date()); A forum for the discussion of business topics: from sales and marketing to dealing with difficult customers. WOODnetWORK You will be notified of responses to the message(s) you posted via email. 2/11       #13: I've Had It With Uni-Bond! Veneering Glossary They are reaching for everything that stands behind the Titebond name – making it one of the most trusted brands in the adhesives industry. Not thorough enough mixing of the powder apparently. Companies participating in a Forum discussion should provide specific answers to posted questions. That is way too much for veneering with a vacuum press. WOODWEB, Inc. The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not to serve as an advertising venue. Vacuum Press Uses Why all the hoopla about the rigid glues? Peeling off the veneer shows how well it gets covered. Be sure to enter your email address correctly. The term "wetting" is often used to describe the ability of the adhesive to penetrate the porous surface of the veneer and the substrate. Readers should undertake the use (return to form) They are used for spreading thinset for tile, adhesive for vinyl flooring, etc. Discussing topics related to maintaining a safe and productive working environment. ... While numbers are interesting, doing test samples is the only way to get a minimal glue line with 100% veneer coverage and no/minimal bleed. Contact WOODWEB for more information on initiating a survey. The info I got from them was to mix with a power mixer let it sit for 5-10 min. Messages should be kept reasonably short and on topic, relating to the focus of the forum. Subject lines may be edited for length and clarity. to receive notification! Discussing 32mm and face frame cabinet construction including fabrication, casegoods design, and installation. Improper Decorum:   Posts which are profane, inciting, disrespectful or uncivil in tone, or maliciously worded. Wood - maybe 6 x 6 x 6 x 1/8 '' thick considerate,... 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