New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. What I'm looking to do is create a strategy game (well, that's a ways down the line) that incorporates orbital mechanics - i.e, a sort of KSP RTS, however, I suppose that the mass and size of the ships does not need to be represented realistically. Add Component > New Script Name: Floater; Language: C-Sharp; Edit the script; Copy & Paste the code below into your script editor. An arbitrary precision float type is a great thing to have, but used carelessly it just gives you the same issues only with smaller epsilons. Actually, that’s true. I suspect it's mostly the first two that affect your latest changes. Given that there are twice as many bits in a double as there are in a float it should be obvious that there are many doubles that cannot be represented in a float. I would love to save myself the headache and math of scaling everything to work with floats and just be able to scrape masses, velocities and distances off of wikipedia, but things like the gravitational constant, or many of the distances (represented in km) become unworkable. Realistically, you won't notice a planet wiggling by a few hundred meters, let alone a few cm, out to a much larger distance. No more fiddling with float vs double. Double: The double accommodates 15 to 16 digits, compared with float's seven. Most FPUs have a (per-thread) setting to control the rounding mode, and x87 FPUs have a setting to control register precision. Until now, Space Engineers and its physics engine (Havok) were using single-precision 32-bit floating point numbers. The problem is that there are two main floating-point types in most C/C++ implementations. There are likewise situations where float-to-double should be accepted silently (inputs to most math functions), and others where they should not (inputs to comparison functions). In programming languages such as Python, the programmer does not need to declare the type of the variable. A physics engine is overkill and will impose limitations on what you will be able to do. Perfomance impact of calculating using float vs double. A 64-bit number can hold ~ 1.8*1019 different values. Really you'd have to change the Transform component and the global 3d space it is used in. The Decimal, Double, and Float variable types are different in the way that they store the values. Floats suck!\n”); In other words, if 1.1 is not the same when stored as a float as when stored as a double then the message will be printed. Floating-point constants in C/C++ are double precision, so the code above is equivalent to: if (float(1.1) != double(1.1)) printf(“OMG! For simple 2-body orbits it is simple enough, very simple if you just use circular orbits. Once he realized that floating-point instability was not the problem he quickly found that his code had some race conditions, and those had been the problem all along. Update: this guarantee is mostly straightforward (if you haven’t recompiled then you’ll get the same results) but nailing it down precisely is tricky. When reading JSON we see a floating point number and we can deserialize it as a double or a float. The Singledata type stores single-precision floating-point values in a 32-bit binary format, as shown in the following table: Just as decimal fractions are unable to precisely represent some fractional values (such as 1/3 or Math.PI), binary fractions are unable to represent some fractional values. Well, I’ve written a script for that. if (x == 0.5) All of the integers from 0 to 2^24 (about 16 million) are representable in a float, and many more are representable in a double, and most of them don’t end in 5. Suppose we want to change the size of the cube we created last time. Now this can happen if you change compilers (such as when changing CPU architectures), change compiler settings (such as optimization levels), and it can happen if you use instructions (like fsin/fcos/ftan) whose value is not precisely defined by the IEEE standard (and if you run your code on a different CPU that implements them differently). Tom Forsyth likes to point out that sometimes switching to double just means your bugs now only occur after hours of playtime, or in distant corners of the map. The confusion, presumably, comes from the fact that 1.1 looks like such a simple number, and therefore the naive expectation is that it can trivially be stored in a float. Cancel. Thanks for tuning in! I expected it to be false | SevenNet, Floating Point in the Browser, Part 3: When x+y=x (y != 0), Floating Point in the Browser, Part 2: Bad Epsilon, Windows Timer Resolution: The Great Rule Change, Floating Point in the Browser, Part 1: Impossible Expectations, 10/7 = 1+3/7 (discard integer part, multiply by ten, next digit is one), 0.2 (multiply by two, first digit is zero), 0.4 (discard integer part, then multiply by two, next digit is zero), 0.8 (multiply by two, next digit is zero). I’ve seen a few online discussions linking to my Comparing Floating Point Numbers page for misguided reasons and I wanted to discuss those reasons to help people understand why throwing epsilons at the problem without understanding the situation is a Really Bad Idea™. After each multiply we take the integer portion of the result as our next digit, and discard the integer portion before the next multiply: Notice that the steps in bold (3-6) repeat endlessly, so the binary representation of 1.1 repeats endlessly. Floating point is subtle, but it’s not inherently nondeterministic. If not, the difference might be much smaller, but it is very dependent on your CPU. (See also PEP 393 strings. ( Log Out / These are float (32 bits) and double (64 bits). The first thing we're gonna do is create a new “Standard Surface Shader”.Some people may prefer a fixed-function shader for this particular case, as those are more flexible. The problem isn’t the comparison, the problem is that people think 1.1 is a float constant. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Making a countdown timer in Unity involves storing a float time value and subtracting the duration of the last frame (the delta time) ... made up of two double-digit numbers that are separated by a colon (00:00). The range of double is 5.0 × 10 −345 to 1.7 × 10 308. Change ). Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Running double calculations on a commercial graphics card will result in 100-300% additional render time per frame. As a case in point, all of Relic’s games have used floating-point extensively in gameplay code, but are still completely deterministic across CPUs from the Pentium II through the i7 — we know this because you can play networked games and replays on different generations of machine without desyncing. 100% applies to the newest line of NVidia cards and 300% applies to their 100 series. Let’s try the same thing with converting 1.1 to base two. ANYWAY, the project I'm currently working on involves making a realistic model of the solar system - including realistic orbital dynamics (although, 2-body, not N-body, of course). http://blog.marekrosa.org/2014/12/space-engineers-super-large-worlds_17.html. When t = 1, f = b. Which is poor odds. If you do a series of operations with floating-point numbers then, since they have finite precision, it is normal and expected that some error will creep in. Default Values: The default value of float is 0.0f. I work in games and for most of our data we absolutely cannot use double. public static int RoundToInt (float f); Description. Depending on dynamic objects density, cluster size can increase its size without limits. Reply. Sure, it works (and if someone’s using 42 to initialize a double, rather than 42.0, that’s not a problem, since small integers are perfectly representable in floats), but it’s setting you up for confusion later. You will learn how to make and endless infinite ocean, add water foam and water wakes, add boat resistance forces, add propulsion, buoyancy so the boat ship can float, and much more. But all the prebuilt Pikes I’ve used have had a 64-bit ‘float’ type. Let’s try this by converting 1/7 to base 10: The answer is 0.142857142857… We can see that the bold steps (2-7) repeat endlessly so therefore we will never get to a remainder of zero. Two reasonable ways to fix the initial code would be: float x = 1.1f; // Float constantif (x != 1.1f) // Float constant printf(“OMG! Floats definitely still have significant advantages. As a programmer who used to avoid floats and doubles whenever possible (because I didn’t understand the “magic” behind them) and is getting to C/C++ game programming, this post and all the others about the subject taught me I was doing it wrong. After each step the integer portion is the next digit. When you work with entire arrays of something, packing can help a lot. I could feasibly do what I'm trying to accomplish in two ways: The first would be to go ahead and split the space up into clusters, maintaining the vector and distance towards the sun for each object (I'm operating in 2D, not worrying about 3D yet, which makes coding "real" physics actually pretty easy). Precision is the main difference where float is a single precision (32 bit) floating point data type, double is a double precision (64 bit) floating point data type and decimal is a 128-bit floating point data type. Here are some numbers to think about: an AU is ~ 1.5*1014 millimeters. Clustering is totally transparent to users, it runs in the background and you won’t see it. Thank you so much. The main barrier to Unity using doubles to track positions would be that doing so would mean a performance decrease for all projects using Unity, regardless if they need the changes or not, and 99% (possibly higher) of games don't actually need worlds in excess of what can be achieved with the current floating point limitations (I.E. For example, 2/10, which is represented precisely by .2 as a decimal fraction, is represented by .0011111001001100 as a binary fraction, with the pattern "1100" repeating to infinity. They had to work around with even 6.6AU. exp, sin, etc.). In Unity, you can see that the default Scale values of Cube are 1 1 1. Generally if you want mathematical precision, you would not use a game engine to do it. Understanding these guarantees is important. How did we increase the precision of numerical computations? We solved it by clustering the game world into independent clusters of objects (minimal cluster size is 20km). Switch to Manual. All binary numbers can be exactly represented in decimal, but not all decimal numbers can be exactly represented in binary. On Intel Haswell the difference between float and double is small, but on ARM Cortex-A9 the difference is big. In other words, the world in Space Engineers is split into independent clusters, wherein each object has its own coordinates relative to the cluster center. There are caveats: the way some SSE instructions are specified is a bit of a minefield, and we’re trying to figure out now how we can make things work reliably across architectures, but the main point is valid. In the Cube script, you can modify Cube’s Scale values in the Cube class. It depends on how you compiled your Pike compiler and if you didn’t add some specific flags, then it depends on architecture. You can use the double type, or the float type. Even knowing some of this stuff, it’s easy to forget day-to-day. Cogently written. It absolutely depends on the domain of course. In that case a thoughtful comparison of the two results with a carefully chosen relative and/or absolute epsilon value is entirely appropriate. If you change those then the results will change. The leading ‘1’ converts straight across, and to generate subsequent binary digits we just repeatedly multiply by two. Hm. the game world in Skyrim is something like 5 km x 5 km). You set these types of variables up in exactly the same way: instead of using the word int, you type double, or float. Since using float increases risk that we'll lose information due to less precision, I can see why double makes more sense here. Everything is made with the programming language C#. C# supports the following predefined floating-point types:In the preceding table, each C# type keyword from the leftmost column is an alias for the corresponding .NET type. Type the following bold line of code in the script: The preceding code declares a variable named sizeModifier. Float uses 1 bit for sign, 8 bits for exponent and 23 bits for mantissa but double uses 1 bit for sign, 11 bits for exponent and 52 bits for the … Memory size for each data type is different. Since code should include sufficient casts to ensure that a code reviewer would have no reason to doubt that the programmer meant what he wrote, I would suggest that language designers should base their type-conversion rules on that principle. Like this: float myFloat; double myDouble; (Float is short for "floating point", and just means a number with a point something on the end.) And thank you for taking the time to help us improve the quality of Unity Documentation. There are some situations where floats should silently promote to doubles, others where doubles should silently demote to floats, and others where the compiler should demand an explicit conversion. And thank you for taking the time to help us improve the quality of Unity Documentation. FYI: In Pike float doesn’t default to double. The double is 8 bytes long. The examples are extremely valuable when one’s thinking isn’t as clear as it should be. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Unfortunately, many languages like Java and C# fall flat. If you have a well-trimmed pipeline using SIMD, you will be able to do twice the number of FLOPS with float vs double. They are interchangeable. And these days, most high level languages are doing the same thing; the ‘float’ type in Python, Pike, and (I think) JavaScript/ECMAScript (where it’s just called a number) is double-precision. Close. Doubles are not floats, so don’t compare them, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11421756/weverything-yielding-comparing-floating-point-with-or-is-unsafe, http://blog.frama-c.com/index.php?post/2011/11/08/Floating-point-quiz, Float Precision Revisited: Nine Digit Float Portability | Random ASCII, Comparing Floating Point Numbers, 2012 Edition | Random ASCII, How to: 0.1 float is greater than 0.1 double. Ever wanted to make an object float up and down while spinning in Unity? Floating Point Accuracy. 2. I do not believe that Unity has a public build that uses doubles by default. ( Log Out / However if you start adding epsilons carelessly – if you allow for error where there should be none – then you get a chaotic explosion of uncertainty where you can’t tell truth from fiction. The limitation for the X, Y and Z Position Transform is 7 significant digits, with a decimal place anywhere within those 7 digits; in effect you could place an object at 12345.67 or 12.34567, for just two examples. In this case, the floating-point value provide… And GPUs still process floats a lot faster than doubles. Float, Double, and Decimal - represents real world numbers, precision and size distinguish these types from each other. Unity allows you to place objects anywhere within the limitations of the float-based coordinate system. _UF -> UNITY_FLOAT _UD -> UNITY_DOUBLE _UU -> UNITY_UINT _UU32 -> UNITY_UINT32 _US16 -> UNITY_INT16. There was no reason. The Floating-point numbers are the real numbers that have a fractional component in it. Having the precision of your floating-point numbers depend on the size of your address space seems bizarre. The default choice for a floating-point type should be double.This is also the type that you get with floating-point literals without a suffix or (in C) standard functions that operate on floating point numbers (e.g. Here's a talk where KSP devs discuss it. No epsilon required. I agree that using 1.1 as a float constant is the problem. But first let’s practice base conversion. I wouldn’t want to speak so definitely about what most people work with most of the time, but just be aware that doubles don’t actually solve all of the problems of binary floating-point math. Well, when people want absolute maximum performance, they don’t pick Pike, they go with C. But most of the time the cost is worth it – just as letting your language do garbage collection for you might have a performance and RAM cost, but it’s so much easier on the debugging. I expected it to be false | SevenNet. John Payson says: May 28, 2016 at 2:01 pm. For example, the following declarations declare variables of the same type:The default value of each floating-point type is zero, 0. Tweak settings to your heart’s content A clustering algorithm guarantees that no dynamic object can be closer than 2km to the cluster border. In our decimal-centric world (the US measurement system notwithstanding) 1.1 “seems” like a simpler number than 1.25, but as a binary float it is not. I've seen this question pop up a few times and every time I see people saying to check out the articles Kerbal Space Program devs wrote about how they solved it. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Switch to Manual. Float vs. But flexibility comes at the cost of a LOT of work: with surface shaders, Unity takes care of all (almost) the PBR lighting and shadowing so you just have to worry about the shader itself. That expectation is incorrect – it is impossible to perfectly represent 1.1 in a binary float. As a result Havok doesn’t need to use double-precision math (physics calculations are faster in single-precision mode). Float - 32 bit (7 digits) And if you do SSE SIMD coding then you can process floats twice as fast as doubles. The slight breaking of the pattern at the end of both numbers is because the conversion is done with round-to-nearest rather than truncation, in order to minimize the error in the approximation, and in both cases it is rounded up. Number of Bytes: The float is 4 bytes long. To convert the fractional part of a number to a particular base you just repeatedly multiply the number by the base. If you are dealing with large arrays of them then the memory savings (and reduced cache misses) can be critical. Each of the two sets of curly brackets represents the minutes and seconds values of the time display. A double loses precision as the value it is approximating increases, of course, but an IEEE 754 64-bit double will still be within 1 of any number less than, say, 2^53, or 9*1015. In this particular case, 0.5 can be represented perfectly, so there should be no difference between float and double. I think the real problem is with the over-simplistic design of operator overloading and promotion. This data format has a certain precision, leading to visible imperfections on objects located further than 10km from the origin. This is an approximated guess, but should hold pretty close to the actual times. The primary difference between float and double is that the float type has 32-bit storage. Make your own math library with arbitrary precision, unless you're going to run thousands of small asteroids and stuff, and mostly focus on planets/moons, just make some 256bit fixed point number system by hand, something like Q128.128 should give you more precision than you need (i think). The net result is that the binary representations of 1.1 in float (24-bit mantissa) and double (53-bit mantissa) precision are: double(1.1) = %1.0001100110011001100110011001100110011001100110011010. Floats suck!\n”); On a fairly regular basis somebody will write code like this and then be shocked that the message is printed. Your name Your email Suggestion * Submit suggestion. You can take advantage of this to create some nifty smooth transition functions. To see why let’s see what happens when we try converting 1.1 to binary. In some cases, comparing floating-point numbers for exact equality is actually correct. I talked to somebody who had spent weeks trying to understand how to deal with floating-point instability in his code – different results on different machines from the same machine code – when it was clear to me that the results should have been identical. Unity is the ultimate game development platform. coordinates given to graphics functions) and others which should not (e.g. Anyway, thanks for your help and the resource. ) But for individual float variables, which is what most people work with most of the time, the performance difference is going to be negligible and the risk high. So the guarantee is really that the same machine code will produce the same results, as long as you don’t do something wacky. Commercial graphics cards are optimized to run 32 bit (float) floating point precision (fpp) where enterprise cards are usually optimized to run 64 bit (double) fpp. This is a tutorial on how to make a realistic boat ship in Unity with boat physics like buoyancy and water physics. Don’t expect the result of double-precision calculations to equal the result of float-precision calculations, even when the only ‘calculation’ is converting from decimal to binary floating point. For more details on conversions and precision see this post. Using string.Format makes it easy to display time in minutes and seconds. Memory locations that store data are called variables. This has really given me something to crunch on! This is due to a hardware limitation. You wouldn’t use 1.1f to initialize an int, and you wouldn’t expect “Hello, world” to be valid for a pointer-to-function, so why use 1.1 to initialize a float? The data is stored in memory. Life will be better. Returns f rounded to the nearest integer. Your name Your email Suggestion * Submit suggestion. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Float is a single-precision, 32-bit floating point data type; double is a double-precision, 64-bit floating point data type. float x = 0.5; And no angels harmed. As you probably know, both of these types are 32-bits. Very clear and point to point reply. http://home.comcast.net/~tom_forsyth/blog.wiki.html#%5B%5BEven%20more%20precision%5D%5D. The worst counter-example to the superstition “testing floats with equality is always bad” may be this one, where the tested value is an infinite: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11421756/weverything-yielding-comparing-floating-point-with-or-is-unsafe, A couple more examples are in this post of mine (it can get tricky, but that does not undermine the message that floating-point is deterministic): http://blog.frama-c.com/index.php?post/2011/11/08/Floating-point-quiz. Pingback: Float Precision Revisited: Nine Digit Float Portability | Random ASCII, Pingback: Comparing Floating Point Numbers, 2012 Edition | Random ASCII. In programming languages such as Java, the programmer should declare the variable type. I’m not sure that a default float type of double helps — after all, the default float type in C/C++ is also double, but for performance reasons many people explicitly choose float. Int - represent whole integer numbers. Decided to start learning Unity to refresh my programming skills (after a few years doing SE) and make myself a bit more marketable to some more creative fields. I'm curious how we can improve on this. Unity is the ultimate game development platform. else if (x == 0.5f) Circular orbits were my first step (in learning C# and the unity environment) - now I'm wanting to expand it - and my design really requires me to be able to "swing" around planets :). Ignore C’s float and just use double instead. inputs to serialization or comparison functions). If floating-point math is incapable of getting correct results when there are no calculations (except for a conversion) involved then it is completely broken. Anyone know? In one of the examples, why do you use float(1.1) and (double)1.1, and thus not double(1.1)? This is a very clear and straight explanation of how floats and doubles behave, and the extra about base conversion was very helpful to remember how it worked! In programming, it is required to store data. printf(“IF”); Double and Int . In fact, if you take a randomly selected double then the odds of it being perfectly representable in a float are about one part in 4 billion. Very clear and point to point reply. I'm certain I'm not the first person to have this problem, and I'm wondering if there is some setting in Unity that will cause the physics engine to use doubles or longs instead of floats. If you do the same calculation in a slightly different way then it is normal and expected that you might get slightly different results. I don't think JSON distinguishes 4-byte vs. 8-byte floating point types does it? float vs double: The float is a single precision 32 bit IEEE 754 floating point data type. On 32-bit systems float is 32-bit, on 64-bit systems float is 64-bit. Here's a few of the basic types: Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Use Unity to build high-quality 3D and 2D games, deploy them across mobile, desktop, VR/AR, consoles or the Web, and connect with loyal and enthusiastic players and customers. The more logical conclusion – rather than “OMG! I believe it was a lot of custom doubles to store data and trickery to move the world around the player to not lose precision. In order to store them into float variable, you need to cast them explicitly or suffix with ‘f’ or ‘F’. It’s also plausible that a programmer might accidentally write that when what was intended was “float1 == (float)double1”. The difference between the two is in the size of the numbers that they can hold. Of course, most of this trouble disappears if you use a high level language. I would guess that that is because the ‘int’ type is the size of a pointer so ‘float’ might as well be also, but still. I’m not sure about the compilation defaults; if the default for a 32-bit build really is a 32-bit float, it’s probably just because nobody’s wanted to go in and change it, just in case it breaks stuff. I would just do the Physics calculations with doubles myself. Alternatively, I can work this using the design of the game rather than physics. I'm seeing a lot of incorrect information on this thread. Use Unity to build high-quality 3D and 2D games, deploy them across mobile, desktop, VR/AR, consoles or the Web, and connect with loyal and enthusiastic players and customers. ( Log Out / We have modified all game objects to support double-precision 64-bit floating point numbers -- this was the easy part The harder one was to change the integration between Space Engineers and Havok (so Havok can keep using 32-bit floating point numbers). I’d regard both of those as sufficiently plausible that good programmers should include casts *in both cases*, so as to make clear to code reviewers that they are aware of how the comparison is performed, and if I were designing a language, I’d forbid the version without a cast. Sometimes people think that floating-point numbers are magically error prone. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I think the real problem is with the over-simplistic design of operator overloading and promotion. How is it possible then that the max value of int is 2 31, and the max value of float is 3.4*10 38, while both of them are 32 bits? But if you stick to the basic five operations (plus, minus, divide, multiply, square root) and you haven’t recompiled your code then you should absolutely expect the same results. By default, floating point numbers are double in Java. int can hold only integer numbers, whereas float also supports floating point numbers (as the type names suggest). ( Log Out / Floats suck!” is that the code above is flawed in some way. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Here is a typical example of the code that triggers this: float x = 1.1;if (x != 1.1) printf(“OMG! Rather than having a broad rule “float-to-double is allowed implicitly; double-to-float isn’t” it would be more helpful to allow more case-by-case determinations. Not a great choice for numerical analysis. Each of the floating-point types has the MinValue and MaxValue constants that provide the minimum and maximum finite value of that type. Floating-point as the scapegoat delayed his finding of the real bug by almost a month. This is a game engine after all, and they tend to cater toward games. On today’s hardware, I’m not sure there’s even any benefit left at all – in the same way that there’s no real benefit to working with 16-bit integers rather than 32-bit, because moving them around in memory usually involves just as much work. 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